Is the Narcissist (Love Rat) Secretly Gay?

[Scottish Lassie]

Good afternoon All,
I thought I would share this podcast with you as it resonates with me after finding out that my rat was having sexual relations with men without my knowledge. He opened up about it (and even flaunted it) after he had made the decision that our relationship was not going to lead to marriage (my fault of course because I was taking my time to get the ball rolling). He no longer had to wear the mask. I am sure most, if not all, of us agree that love rats are all narcissistic to the core. I am also sure that many of you though would not agree that your rats have homosexual tendencies. This podcast really opened my eyes. I am subscribed to H.G. Tudor’s website, a narcissist who gives advice to those who may be involved with one (be that in a romantic/sexual relationship, a family member, a colleague, a friend etc.). I have been subscribed to his page for around 2 years. I was trying to understand why my rat was the type of person he was and why some people turn into narcissists. After finding out my rat was having sexual liaisons with both men and women (both online as well as in person) I was keen to know if this was a one off or if it was pretty common amongst narcissists. My questions were answered when I listened to this podcast. Especially when it comes to online relationships with rats it is difficult to know what they are getting up to when the are not online chatting to us. When they give us the excuses of being too tired, not having airtime, their phone is flat/not working, being sick, working late etc. at first we believe that to be true. As time goes on we may have doubts and begin to think that they are chatting with someone else...or worse. But do we ever wonder if we are being “cheated on” with another man? When it comes to narcissists they will do whatever it takes to achieve their prime aims...and if that means having liaisons with other people of the same gender (even if they don’t class themselves as gay) then they will do it. I believe rats would be willing to have liaisons with other men if it meant being able to have sex, obtain money, secure a visa etc. The list goes on and on. Narcissists are sexually fluid and as much as we don’t want to believe it...many of these rats are too. Some of your rats may not have completely removed the mask when things ended between you. You may have known that there were other women but not that there were secretly other men. I think it is a lot worse why you are in a relationship with a rat in the “real world” as you do not know who they are necessarily sleeping with and what sexually transmitted diseases are being spread around. These rats are capable of anything and everything. There are no boundaries for them. I truly believe that. I think you will find this podcast insightful and it certainly gives a lot of food for thought. xx

 

[MH007]

Good afternoon All,
I thought I would share this podcast with you as it resonates with me after finding out that my rat was having sexual relations with men without my knowledge. He opened up about it (and even flaunted it) after he had made the decision that our relationship was not going to lead to marriage (my fault of course because I was taking my time to get the ball rolling). He no longer had to wear the mask. I am sure most, if not all, of us agree that love rats are all narcissistic to the core. I am also sure that many of you though would not agree that your rats have homosexual tendencies. This podcast really opened my eyes. I am subscribed to H.G. Tudor’s website, a narcissist who gives advice to those who may be involved with one (be that in a romantic/sexual relationship, a family member, a colleague, a friend etc.). I have been subscribed to his page for around 2 years. I was trying to understand why my rat was the type of person he was and why some people turn into narcissists. After finding out my rat was having sexual liaisons with both men and women (both online as well as in person) I was keen to know if this was a one off or if it was pretty common amongst narcissists. My questions were answered when I listened to this podcast. Especially when it comes to online relationships with rats it is difficult to know what they are getting up to when the are not online chatting to us. When they give us the excuses of being too tired, not having airtime, their phone is flat/not working, being sick, working late etc. at first we believe that to be true. As time goes on we may have doubts and begin to think that they are chatting with someone else...or worse. But do we ever wonder if we are being “cheated on” with another man? When it comes to narcissists they will do whatever it takes to achieve their prime aims...and if that means having liaisons with other people of the same gender (even if they don’t class themselves as gay) then they will do it. I believe rats would be willing to have liaisons with other men if it meant being able to have sex, obtain money, secure a visa etc. The list goes on and on. Narcissists are sexually fluid and as much as we don’t want to believe it...many of these rats are too. Some of your rats may not have completely removed the mask when things ended between you. You may have known that there were other women but not that there were secretly other men. I think it is a lot worse why you are in a relationship with a rat in the “real world” as you do not know who they are necessarily sleeping with and what sexually transmitted diseases are being spread around. These rats are capable of anything and everything. There are no boundaries for them. I truly believe that. I think you will find this podcast insightful and it certainly gives a lot of food for thought. xx

Really interesting podcast, thank you for posting it.

What I liked is that he admits to being a narcissist so has a real insight into their thoughts and behaviours.

MH x

 

[Moonshine1]

Good afternoon All,
I thought I would share this podcast with you as it resonates with me after finding out that my rat was having sexual relations with men without my knowledge. He opened up about it (and even flaunted it) after he had made the decision that our relationship was not going to lead to marriage (my fault of course because I was taking my time to get the ball rolling). He no longer had to wear the mask. I am sure most, if not all, of us agree that love rats are all narcissistic to the core. I am also sure that many of you though would not agree that your rats have homosexual tendencies. This podcast really opened my eyes. I am subscribed to H.G. Tudor’s website, a narcissist who gives advice to those who may be involved with one (be that in a romantic/sexual relationship, a family member, a colleague, a friend etc.). I have been subscribed to his page for around 2 years. I was trying to understand why my rat was the type of person he was and why some people turn into narcissists. After finding out my rat was having sexual liaisons with both men and women (both online as well as in person) I was keen to know if this was a one off or if it was pretty common amongst narcissists. My questions were answered when I listened to this podcast. Especially when it comes to online relationships with rats it is difficult to know what they are getting up to when the are not online chatting to us. When they give us the excuses of being too tired, not having airtime, their phone is flat/not working, being sick, working late etc. at first we believe that to be true. As time goes on we may have doubts and begin to think that they are chatting with someone else...or worse. But do we ever wonder if we are being “cheated on” with another man? When it comes to narcissists they will do whatever it takes to achieve their prime aims...and if that means having liaisons with other people of the same gender (even if they don’t class themselves as gay) then they will do it. I believe rats would be willing to have liaisons with other men if it meant being able to have sex, obtain money, secure a visa etc. The list goes on and on. Narcissists are sexually fluid and as much as we don’t want to believe it...many of these rats are too. Some of your rats may not have completely removed the mask when things ended between you. You may have known that there were other women but not that there were secretly other men. I think it is a lot worse why you are in a relationship with a rat in the “real world” as you do not know who they are necessarily sleeping with and what sexually transmitted diseases are being spread around. These rats are capable of anything and everything. There are no boundaries for them. I truly believe that. I think you will find this podcast insightful and it certainly gives a lot of food for thought. xx

I belive the rat off mine was gay !!!!!!

 

[Moonshine1]

always sending gay porn in messages too much with his cousin touchy feeling him and his cousin way too much and a gay singer sat singing to him then exchanging numbers and fb !!!!!! Someone send me a message asking me to look after my health because they all knew the rat was gay obviously denying it when I confronted him !!!!!

 

[confuseddotcom]

Good afternoon All,
I thought I would share this podcast with you as it resonates with me after finding out that my rat was having sexual relations with men without my knowledge. He opened up about it (and even flaunted it) after he had made the decision that our relationship was not going to lead to marriage (my fault of course because I was taking my time to get the ball rolling). He no longer had to wear the mask. I am sure most, if not all, of us agree that love rats are all narcissistic to the core. I am also sure that many of you though would not agree that your rats have homosexual tendencies. This podcast really opened my eyes. I am subscribed to H.G. Tudor’s website, a narcissist who gives advice to those who may be involved with one (be that in a romantic/sexual relationship, a family member, a colleague, a friend etc.). I have been subscribed to his page for around 2 years. I was trying to understand why my rat was the type of person he was and why some people turn into narcissists. After finding out my rat was having sexual liaisons with both men and women (both online as well as in person) I was keen to know if this was a one off or if it was pretty common amongst narcissists. My questions were answered when I listened to this podcast. Especially when it comes to online relationships with rats it is difficult to know what they are getting up to when the are not online chatting to us. When they give us the excuses of being too tired, not having airtime, their phone is flat/not working, being sick, working late etc. at first we believe that to be true. As time goes on we may have doubts and begin to think that they are chatting with someone else...or worse. But do we ever wonder if we are being “cheated on” with another man? When it comes to narcissists they will do whatever it takes to achieve their prime aims...and if that means having liaisons with other people of the same gender (even if they don’t class themselves as gay) then they will do it. I believe rats would be willing to have liaisons with other men if it meant being able to have sex, obtain money, secure a visa etc. The list goes on and on. Narcissists are sexually fluid and as much as we don’t want to believe it...many of these rats are too. Some of your rats may not have completely removed the mask when things ended between you. You may have known that there were other women but not that there were secretly other men. I think it is a lot worse why you are in a relationship with a rat in the “real world” as you do not know who they are necessarily sleeping with and what sexually transmitted diseases are being spread around. These rats are capable of anything and everything. There are no boundaries for them. I truly believe that. I think you will find this podcast insightful and it certainly gives a lot of food for thought. xx

Well they hate women that’s for sure. I often wondered the same thing. They don’t operate like red-blooded straight guys.

 

[Moonshine1]

Well they hate women that’s for sure. I often wondered the same thing. They don’t operate like red-blooded straight guys.

Something not right in there head haha they like to show this gay side but hate the guys?,,,?

 

[confuseddotcom]

Something not right in there head haha they like to show this gay side but hate the guys?,,,?

I guess they’re in the closet lol

 

[MH007]

I guess they’re in the closet lol

Well they can just stay in there - do us all a favour

 

[Scottish Lassie]

Really interesting podcast, thank you for posting it.

What I liked is that he admits to being a narcissist so has a real insight into their thoughts and behaviours.

MH x

Thanks @MH007 I find his podcasts very interesting and gaining that first hand insight. As I listen to his podcasts or read his posts I see so many similarities to my rat. I came across the post on here about rats “swinging”both ways and I read through all 11 pages. It seems that I have lots of company in this respect. If only his wife knew who she was married to. I checked her LinkedIn profile a while ago and she had posted that a year ago they had moved from the west side of the US to the east coast. I immediately thought he must have instigated that move so that it would be easier and cheaper for him to return to Tunisia when the time comes. I would never approach her as I know she would never believe anything I say (if his mask hasn’t started falling off already that is). At one point we all wore those rose-tinted glasses and there is a good chance she is still wearing hers. Hopefully she’ll find out the truth sooner than later. I really hope he has not been sleeping with other men (more likely) or women since he’s got married. However I don’t think he will ever change and that he probably watches a lot of gay/straight porn while his wife is not around or is asleep. He was addicted to it when I knew him and he had no shame about it. I hope too that he hasn’t tried (and succeeded) to convince her that anal sex was good. I always worried that if we ever did end up together in person he would try to live out his strange fetishes with and on me. Although it still angers me at times and hurts on occasion, I consider myself blessed that things didn’t work out. My glasses were slightly rose-tinted even right at the end but believe me they are no more. Between H.G.Tudor and the “experts” here on TLR, my eyes have been opened wider than they’ve ever been. If only I had come across you before I was caught in his web....but thank goodness I’ve got you as support now. xxx

 

[Scottish Lassie]

I belive the rat off mine was gay !!!!!!

I wouldn’t be surprised if most of them are @Starlight. Perhaps not outwardly in most cases but certainly behind closed doors (or dark public places) when their grotesquely large sexual appetites are not being satisfied. One of HJ Tudor’s podcasts was entitled “Any Hole Will Do”. As I listened to it I thought of these rats and how any hole will do for them if it means they get the sex, visa, money etc. They are as low as men (not that they are human of course) can go! It’s safer to just stay as far away from them as you can...that will lessen the chances of contracting any STDs from them. They are not who we “at first” think they are. Sick, sick rats!!!!

 

[Scottish Lassie]

always sending gay porn in messages too much with his cousin touchy feeling him and his cousin way too much and a gay singer sat singing to him then exchanging numbers and fb !!!!!! Someone send me a message asking me to look after my health because they all knew the rat was gay obviously denying it when I confronted him !!!!!

That is just awful @Starlight. I know in many countries sexual relationships (marriage included) is legal. Personally I think the family connection is too close...not as close as a brother or sister but still close enough. When I was a teenager I was very close to my cousin (who was 9 months older than me). I used to say to myself that if he had not been my cousin I would have happily married him. But the thought of having “experimental” sex with my cousins and friends as children is repulsive. These rats have warped ideas of sex from a young age and their definition of “normal” sexual relations are far removed from ours. It seems as though your rat and his cousin were most likely “experimenting” on each other...or had been when they were younger. Such behaviour in my eyes is not normal...and especially if it’s happening when you (the rat) are supposed to be in a committed heterosexual relationship. They are truly sick people. Calling them rats is even too kind a name for them. xx

 

[Scottish Lassie]

Well they hate women that’s for sure. I often wondered the same thing. They don’t operate like red-blooded straight guys.

You are right there @confuseddotcom I think their hatred for women stems from their relationships with their mothers...be it that their mothers were cold and didn’t show much affection to them or that they were mollycoddled and had too much of an intimate relationship (although not necessarily sexual). I did not know my rat’s mum but I often heard her shouting at him during our video calls. Of course I never understood a thing she was saying. I wonder now what his parents would think about the other side to him (assuming they didn’t know or had suspicions). My rat was not a red-blooded straight guy despite trying to convince me otherwise (at least at first). He would go on and on about wanting to have sex with men or threesomes and would suddenly change his tune and become all holy and say that God would not approve. You never quite knew what was going to come out of his mouth next. Thank goodness I don’t have to put up with that crap anymore! xx

 

[Scottish Lassie]

Something not right in there head haha they like to show this gay side but hate the guys?,,,?

Yes @Starlight They are like proper prostitutes. If it secures money or simply sexual gratification they’ll simply close their eyes and forget everything...the fact they hate men, the fact they are “against” gay sex, the fact the man is ugly or smells bad...everything! I take back the “smells bad” part as I think that is something they all have in common. In a way I’m glad I never found out firsthand. Remember”Any hole will do.” xx

 

[Tinker-lulu]

@Scottish Lassie lol, SPOT ON ! They’re not allowed to be with women until married, (some do secretly), so men always together everywhere .... mmmmm... so I wonder how they get their sexual satisfaction... wait I know! It’s like being in prison with men only and guess what!,,
Foreigners women come along and yeayy we can have SEX!,
AM I being sarcastic ? No... this is how it is, they want us to teach them how it’s done because THEY HAVE’NT GOT A F**ING CLUE lol

 

[yougogirl75]

@Scottish Lassie lol, SPOT ON ! They’re not allowed to be with women until married, (some do secretly), so men always together everywhere .... mmmmm... so I wonder how they get their sexual satisfaction... wait I know! It’s like being in prison with men only and guess what!,,
Foreigners women come along and yeayy we can have SEX!,
AM I being sarcastic ? No... this is how it is, they want us to teach them how it’s done because THEY HAVE’NT GOT A F**ING CLUE lol

The rats seem to like the back door more than being with a woman LOL
They treat their friends better than their own women!
The rat goes home to his wife and wants to do the same to her whether she likes it or not.
Sodomizing is a better term, the rats pretty much break all the moral codes there are.

 

[Tinker-lulu]

Wankers! Pure and simple lol

 

[Moonshine1]

Once they start loseing that grip on you watch them try and tighten there grip even tighter on you they the rats think the anger the arguments control factor will bring u back as if !!!!!
They are completely fucked in head to think we are so scared off them we dare to leave then oh we are scared Dare not leave and we should be controlled wtf are they for real !!!
The grip will tighten when u do decide to leave so I advise you women stay calm if your in tunisia and just pretend everythings OK and leave the rat when u are back in your own country because if u tell them u are leaving them in tunisia i warn u your life will be in danger he will beat the crap out off you never trust the rats ever !!!! Theyvqre the mist vilest vermin on earth !!!

 

[confuseddotcom]

Once they start loseing that grip on you watch them try and tighten there grip even tighter on you they the rats think the anger the arguments control factor will bring u back as if !!!!!
They are completely fucked in head to think we are so scared off them we dare to leave then oh we are scared Dare not leave and we should be controlled wtf are they for real !!!
The grip will tighten when u do decide to leave so I advise you women stay calm if your in tunisia and just pretend everythings OK and leave the rat when u are back in your own country because if u tell them u are leaving them in tunisia i warn u your life will be in danger he will beat the crap out off you never trust the rats ever !!!! Theyvqre the mist vilest vermin on earth !!!

100% they also stalk and follow and can get you into a lot of (legal) trouble out there, so you have to play along with it

 

[Moonshine1]

100% they also stalk and follow and can get you into a lot of (legal) trouble out there, so you have to play along with it

True play along till u get home then blow the horn and finish it all !!!!

 

[Moonshine1]

I belive the rat off mine was gay !!!!!!

Mine too i think

 

[Tiana]

i can answer u this question. he hates himself and yes hes undercover gay if he refuses to go down on u and prefers blowjobs and anal, and if he oent have respect for u. u are just his ticket out of his strict country. he can get killed for this in his country. break up ith this inseure scammer.nothing wrong with being gay but thy shouldnt use a vulnerable woman just to get out of their cvountry!"!!"

 

[Tiana]

I belive the rat off mine was gay !!!!!!

u should have sat on his face so he can inhale ur flower scence lol i believe my ex from oran is bisexual. i made him go down on me and told him if he wont do it i break up ith him lmao