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I don’t think so. I think Karla got out of jail and was married or living with her lawyer in the Caribbean. But Paul was still in jail at the time I watched the program.
She is back from the Caribbean
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada...visions-to-ontarios-curriculum-is-a-travesty/

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Karla Homolka now living in Chateauguay, Quebec
Homolka served 12 years in prison for manslaughter
by The Canadian Press
Apr 20, 2016

CHATEAUGUAY, Que. — Reports that convicted killer Karla Homolka has resurfaced southwest of Montreal are creating a buzz in the town of Chateauguay. Homolka is living in the community and some of her three children are attending a local school, City News and Global both said Tuesday.

Following her release from prison, she settled in the province of Quebec, where she married again and gave birth to a boy. In 2007, the Canadian press reported that she had left Canada for the Antilles with her husband and their baby, and had changed her name to Leanne Teale. In 2012, journalist Paula Todd found Homolka living in Guadeloupe, under the name Leanne Bordelais, with her husband and their three children. On October 17, 2014, the jury in the first-degree murder trial of Luka Magnotta heard that Homolka is living in Quebec. In May 2017, it was reported that Homolka has been volunteering at her children's elementary school in Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, a Montreal neighbourhood.
 
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Laura2014

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She is back from the Caribbean
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada...visions-to-ontarios-curriculum-is-a-travesty/

Canada
Karla Homolka now living in Chateauguay, Quebec
Homolka served 12 years in prison for manslaughter
by The Canadian Press
Apr 20, 2016

CHATEAUGUAY, Que. — Reports that convicted killer Karla Homolka has resurfaced southwest of Montreal are creating a buzz in the town of Chateauguay. Homolka is living in the community and some of her three children are attending a local school, City News and Global both said Tuesday.

Following her release from prison, she settled in the province of Quebec, where she married again and gave birth to a boy. In 2007, the Canadian press reported that she had left Canada for the Antilles with her husband and their baby, and had changed her name to Leanne Teale. In 2012, journalist Paula Todd found Homolka living in Guadeloupe, under the name Leanne Bordelais, with her husband and their three children. On October 17, 2014, the jury in the first-degree murder trial of Luka Magnotta heard that Homolka is living in Quebec. In May 2017, it was reported that Homolka has been volunteering at her children's elementary school in Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, a Montreal neighbourhood.
What a horrific story. Unbelievable she is allowed any contact with children, her own or otherwise. Even if she was under his influence she took part is atrocious acts. She could never be trusted.
 
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By The Canadian Press
Thu., June 1, 2017
A private Montreal elementary school is moving to quell public fears following media reports about Karla Homolka doing some volunteer work there.

The school, which is operated by the Seventh-day Adventist Church, says it won’t allow anyone with a criminal record to volunteer in any capacity on school grounds.

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The church issued a brief statement Thursday that didn’t mention Homolka by name, but said it has “heard and listened to the concerns of parents and members of the community uncomfortable with recent reports in the media.”

On Tuesday, City News reported that Homolka had occasionally volunteered at the school, including supervising a field trip and bringing her dog into the classroom to interact with children.

A spokesman for the church told the TV station earlier this week that Homolka was not a regular volunteer and was not allowed to be alone with the children.

Homolka and ex-husband Paul Bernardo were convicted of crimes related to the rape and murder of two schoolgirls, Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy.

Homolka struck a deal with prosecutors where she served 12 years in prison for manslaughter while Bernardo was convicted of murder and is serving a life sentence.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...-volunteer-at-montreal-elementary-school.html
 
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Just parents know nothing about her past I think. Those who let it under the mask of mercy or whatever else are assholes and criminals.
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Homolka cagily played the role of a battered wife married to a monster.

She didn’t think it germane to inform Niagara Regional Police detectives or the Crown Attorney, Ray Houlihan, that she was an active participant in the depraved tortures the two teens endured.

Nor did she reveal that her little sister, Tammy, 14, died drugged out of her mind at the hands of Homolka and her husband. She had gifted Tammy to Bernardo as his sexual Christmas present.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/deal-with-the-devil-25-years-since-karla-homolka-skated
 

Liona

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I don't see the sense to discuss how cruel she is and how stupid and cruel justice system is.
The leflets with her fecking face and her history must be placed everywhere in the city she lives in, especially in the school where she comes to with her dog ( I would ban her from the dog also). People have the right to know who is next to them and protect themselves and their children.
I know tolerant persons could mind "She has paid for what she has done", but it's bullshit. The personality of the person dealing with the children is extreemly important even if this person keeps the silence. He/she influences even if he/she says nothing. Every single minute.
 
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I don't see the sense to discuss how cruel she is and how stupid and cruel justice system is.
The leflets with her fecking face and her history must be placed everywhere in the city she lives in, especially in the school where she comes to with her dog ( I would ban her from the dog also). People have the right to know who is next to them and protect themselves and their children.
I know tolerant persons could mind "She has paid for what she has done", but it's bullshit. The personality of the person dealing with the children is extreemly important even if this person keeps the silence. He/she influences even if he/she says nothing. Every single minute.
How could this happen? Her 2005 release came with the imposed conditions of a ban on contact with children under the age of 16, but somehow several months later, a second judge overturned the conditions. This allowed Homolka the freedom to appear at her children’s school. Justifiably, parents of children who attend that school are concerned. Why do we even have criminal background checks for parent volunteers if someone like Karla Homolka can so easily slip through the net? It appears that the law has protected Homolka and her right to have children and parent them before it protects others around them. Every school has overzealous parents that complain and squawk about every little thing—but if Homolka was a parent at my own kid’s school, you can bet that I would be one of them.

And it’s not simply “a question of forgiveness”, as NDP Leader Tom Mulcair suggested. The calculated way with which Homolka supplied the drugs, participated fully in the murders, turned on her husband, and manipulated the system to secure a deal before police found video evidence, is proof that there is a much bigger debt that the serial killer hasn’t come close to paying off.

https://webcache.googleusercontent....-your-life-around/+&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=de
 

juicyfruit

Major Ratslayer
There was a true documentary about this young woman in Canada named Karla Holmolka. She married a rapist and even helped him pick up the girls, including her little sister. Then she helped him kill the girls and cut up their bodies. The part about this story that made it so bad was that the girls felt safe because they were getting a ride with a young couple, not a lone man. And the little sister felt safe because she trusted her sister. The girls didn’t have any idea what was going on until it was too late.
Karla’s legal defence was based on her husbands control he had over her.
Sometimes the power and control some guys can have over women is just too strong. Not all men with this power are rapists or murderers. It probably sits somewhere with narcistic behaviour.
I would bet he has her seeing past his crimes and has her brainwashed pretty well. Or, she is like him: deranged.
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juicyfruit

Major Ratslayer
How could this happen? Her 2005 release came with the imposed conditions of a ban on contact with children under the age of 16, but somehow several months later, a second judge overturned the conditions. This allowed Homolka the freedom to appear at her children’s school. Justifiably, parents of children who attend that school are concerned. Why do we even have criminal background checks for parent volunteers if someone like Karla Homolka can so easily slip through the net? It appears that the law has protected Homolka and her right to have children and parent them before it protects others around them. Every school has overzealous parents that complain and squawk about every little thing—but if Homolka was a parent at my own kid’s school, you can bet that I would be one of them.

And it’s not simply “a question of forgiveness”, as NDP Leader Tom Mulcair suggested. The calculated way with which Homolka supplied the drugs, participated fully in the murders, turned on her husband, and manipulated the system to secure a deal before police found video evidence, is proof that there is a much bigger debt that the serial killer hasn’t come close to paying off.

https://webcache.googleusercontent....-your-life-around/+&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=de
She should have paid by having a hysterectomy ..
 
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The calculated way with which Homolka supplied the drugs, participated fully in the murders, turned on her husband, and manipulated the system to secure a deal before police found video evidence, is proof that there is a much bigger debt that the serial killer hasn’t come close to paying off.
I can't get over the impudence that woman had, to volontaire at a school :Evil:
 
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suggested. The calculated way with which Homolka supplied the drugs, participated fully in the murders, turned on her husband, and manipulated the system to secure a deal before police found video evidence, is proof that there is a much bigger debt that the serial killer hasn’t come close to paying off.
It was my understanding that Paul Bernardo had withheld the tapes until he knew Karla had a deal. He wanted to take all the blame. As I understood it, yes Karla turned on her husband, after she was safe from him. We will never know the whole truth if this story. But she could have been under some diet of brainwashing and fear of her husband. So that’s how she got away with only 12 years. It’s that thread of doubt that she was a willing partner in the crimes.
This NDP Guy sounds like he’s trying to say Karla was the influencer in these crimes. But I don’t see how. That Paul Bernardo is a predator. And Karla should turn on him. Just saying.
The punishment was dealt. Nothing we can do about that. It’s the fact that she could of been brainwashed and manipulated that interests me. How does a guy go that?
Is it possible for a person to have that much control over another person? I understand the fear. But it just seems so extreme.
I’m not say g she is innocent. I’m just curious about the possibility she was coerced.
To scam and lie is one thing, but to get someone to be a willing partner in rape and murder, that’s powerful. Scares me to think of this happening to anyone.
 
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We will never know the whole truth if this story. But she could have been under some diet of brainwashing and fear of her husband. So that’s how she got away with only 12 years. It’s that thread of doubt that she was a willing partner in the crimes.
That Homolka and her husband have young children has also complicated things for some people. The kids are innocents, goes this thinking, and yet they suffer the sting of her crimes and occasional surfacings in the press.

That’s all true, of course. But Homolka chose to have children, after all, in the knowledge that she must be prepared to answer their questions when and if they came.

She’s always been awfully good at preparation.

When, for instance, Bernardo was just a weekend boyfriend — she was living in the bosom of her parents’ home in St. Catharines, Ont., with sisters Lori and Tammy, he was living in Toronto — and suggested that he’d like to “take Tammy’s virginity” (this is how the pair always described rape) one Christmas, Homolka may have demurred at first, but she quickly got a plan in place.

She worked at a vet clinic in those days, and researched what drugs would be best, settling on the anesthetic Halothane. She stole some.

Two nights before Christmas of 1990, the Homolkas gathered in the family room, Bernardo with his new video recorder, all of them drinking and watching movies. Eventually, they all went upstairs to bed except for Homolka, Bernardo and Tammy.

They had loaded Tammy’s drinks with crushed sleeping pills, so the teenager was already doped to the gills; she fell asleep. Homolka and Bernardo swung into action, she soaking a cloth with the Halothane and holding it over Tammy’s face, he directing Homolka to sexually assault her baby sister.

It was just after they had switched positions — Bernardo now raping Tammy, Homolka at the helm of the camera — that the teen vomited and stopped breathing.

She died, and despite a violent red burn on Tammy’s face that was never explained, thanks to Homolka’s swift thinking — she hid the drugs and threw the vomit-stained blankets into the wash – and a slow-witted cop who overruled his rightly suspicious younger colleague, the death was written off as accidental.

Only years later, at Homolka’s plea, did the truth of Tammy’s death emerge.

At that brief and essentially private proceeding – most of the evidence was under a sweeping publication ban, allegedly to protect Bernardo’s fair-trial rights but as much to shield state conduct from scrutiny – Homolka pleaded guilty to manslaughter for her role in the abduction, sexual assaults and deaths of Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French, and, oh yes, her own sister.



She received a 12-year sentence and served every day of it, emerging in 2005 as a free woman.

As heinous as her conduct was in the Mahaffy and French deaths – she was an eager participant and though she had opportunities to get help, didn’t lift a finger for either girl – it was her voluntary handing over of her own flesh and blood, in the family home with her parents and other sister asleep upstairs, that is her original sin, and tells the tale.

It was here that she crossed a bright line – and remember, she was not then in Bernardo’s thrall, certainly not his victim, but rather was an independent, free-spirited young woman with her own money and circle of friends.

As she once snapped at Bernardo’s lawyer, John Rosen, who was pressing her to explain how on earth she could have agreed to attack Tammy, it was only going to be the once, “a one-time thing.”

Just a few weeks later, Homolka dressed up in her dead sister’s clothes, holding a picture of her over her face, and pretended to be her as she and Bernardo had sex. That’s how consumed with grief and regret she was; this is what needs to be remembered.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ch...ld-remember-the-horror-of-karla-homolkas-past
 
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Brasilgirl

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That Homolka and her husband have young children has also complicated things for some people. The kids are innocents, goes this thinking, and yet they suffer the sting of her crimes and occasional surfacings in the press.

That’s all true, of course. But Homolka chose to have children, after all, in the knowledge that she must be prepared to answer their questions when and if they came.

She’s always been awfully good at preparation.

When, for instance, Bernardo was just a weekend boyfriend — she was living in the bosom of her parents’ home in St. Catharines, Ont., with sisters Lori and Tammy, he was living in Toronto — and suggested that he’d like to “take Tammy’s virginity” (this is how the pair always described rape) one Christmas, Homolka may have demurred at first, but she quickly got a plan in place.

She worked at a vet clinic in those days, and researched what drugs would be best, settling on the anesthetic Halothane. She stole some.

Two nights before Christmas of 1990, the Homolkas gathered in the family room, Bernardo with his new video recorder, all of them drinking and watching movies. Eventually, they all went upstairs to bed except for Homolka, Bernardo and Tammy.

They had loaded Tammy’s drinks with crushed sleeping pills, so the teenager was already doped to the gills; she fell asleep. Homolka and Bernardo swung into action, she soaking a cloth with the Halothane and holding it over Tammy’s face, he directing Homolka to sexually assault her baby sister.

It was just after they had switched positions — Bernardo now raping Tammy, Homolka at the helm of the camera — that the teen vomited and stopped breathing.

She died, and despite a violent red burn on Tammy’s face that was never explained, thanks to Homolka’s swift thinking — she hid the drugs and threw the vomit-stained blankets into the wash – and a slow-witted cop who overruled his rightly suspicious younger colleague, the death was written off as accidental.

Only years later, at Homolka’s plea, did the truth of Tammy’s death emerge.

At that brief and essentially private proceeding – most of the evidence was under a sweeping publication ban, allegedly to protect Bernardo’s fair-trial rights but as much to shield state conduct from scrutiny – Homolka pleaded guilty to manslaughter for her role in the abduction, sexual assaults and deaths of Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French, and, oh yes, her own sister.



She received a 12-year sentence and served every day of it, emerging in 2005 as a free woman.

As heinous as her conduct was in the Mahaffy and French deaths – she was an eager participant and though she had opportunities to get help, didn’t lift a finger for either girl – it was her voluntary handing over of her own flesh and blood, in the family home with her parents and other sister asleep upstairs, that is her original sin, and tells the tale.

It was here that she crossed a bright line – and remember, she was not then in Bernardo’s thrall, certainly not his victim, but rather was an independent, free-spirited young woman with her own money and circle of friends.

As she once snapped at Bernardo’s lawyer, John Rosen, who was pressing her to explain how on earth she could have agreed to attack Tammy, it was only going to be the once, “a one-time thing.”

Just a few weeks later, Homolka dressed up in her dead sister’s clothes, holding a picture of her over her face, and pretended to be her as she and Bernardo had sex. That’s how consumed with grief and regret she was; this is what needs to be remembered.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ch...ld-remember-the-horror-of-karla-homolkas-past
Why on earth would she do all that for him?
That’s what I don’t understand. She’s obviosy deranged or extremely susceptible.
 
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Mango Chutney

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It’s the fact that she could of been brainwashed and manipulated that interests me.
I don't buy this. I was controlled and manipulated by a man, most of us members were controlled and manipulated by a man....but we would not kill kids for said men!
Even controlled and manipulated people still have an element of control over their own behaviour, they know where to draw the line and say no, enough is enough.
She knew full damn well what she was doing, she is nothing but a despicable piece of human filth :Evil:
She should never be allowed near kids again, not her own, nor other peoples.
As far as I'm concerned, with DNA testing now as advanced as it is....people like her should get the death penalty...she is good for nobody.
Evil bitch needs to take responsibility for her chosen role in this shocking behaviour, instead of blame pushing :Evil:
 
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Brasilgirl

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I don't buy this. I was controlled and manipulated by a man, most of us members were controlled and manipulated by a man....but we would not kill kids for said men!
Even controlled and manipulated people still have an element of control over their own behaviour, they know where to draw the line and say no, enough is enough.
She knew full damn well what she was doing, she is nothing but a despicable piece of human filth :Evil:
She should never be allowed near kids again, not her own, nor other peoples.
As far as I'm concerned, with DNA testing now as advanced as it is....people like her should get the death penalty...she is good for nobody.
Evil bitch needs to take responsibility for her chosen role in this shocking behaviour, instead of blame pushing :Evil:
I agree she knew what she was doing. I just wanted to have more understanding as to what extent a person could be controlled.
Canada doesn’t have the death penalty. In fact I think most of the penalties in Canada are leinient.
 
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Mango Chutney

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In fact I think most of the penalties in Canada are leinient.
Well, it's a sure thing dippy Trudeau won't fix that. He'll offer free counselling, free massage and a hijab!
I can't understand how anybody could be controlled enough to kill, unless they've got a gun held to their head, like in 'Se7en', so extreme fear kicks in.
With a gun held to my head, I like to think I'd just let them kill me, but if the gun was held to the head of one of my kids...I don't know what I'd be capable of.
 
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